Comments on: OER Recommender Released http://www.joelduffin.com/blog/2007/08/23/oer-recommender-released/ life is a rum go guv’nor, and that’s the truth Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:07:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Random Syntax » Learners take control with client-side tools http://www.joelduffin.com/blog/2007/08/23/oer-recommender-released/comment-page-1/#comment-78 Random Syntax » Learners take control with client-side tools Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:58:27 +0000 http://www.joelduffin.com/blog/?p=12#comment-78 [...] It recommends other useful resources related to the page you are viewing. I found the page explaining the approach and mathematics very insightful. It certainly gave me a few ideas on how I could put some Machine [...] [...] It recommends other useful resources related to the page you are viewing. I found the page explaining the approach and mathematics very insightful. It certainly gave me a few ideas on how I could put some Machine [...]

]]> By: Downes http://www.joelduffin.com/blog/2007/08/23/oer-recommender-released/comment-page-1/#comment-77 Downes Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:36:31 +0000 http://www.joelduffin.com/blog/?p=12#comment-77 The page for the referrers is: http://www.downes.ca/referrers.htm It's an old page and I don't support it any more. The links don't work (I'll probably patch it all up again one day). The code is here: http://www.downes.ca/code/referrersa.txt and here's the Javascript: http://www.downes.ca/code/referrersjs.txt Creating a script that will insert Javascript code into a web page using a one-line Javascript is pretty trivial. If you send me the Javascript you want to put into the page (be clear about any variables) I can give you a script. The page for the referrers is: http://www.downes.ca/referrers.htm

It’s an old page and I don’t support it any more. The links don’t work (I’ll probably patch it all up again one day). The code is here:

http://www.downes.ca/code/referrersa.txt

and here’s the Javascript:

http://www.downes.ca/code/referrersjs.txt

Creating a script that will insert Javascript code into a web page using a one-line Javascript is pretty trivial. If you send me the Javascript you want to put into the page (be clear about any variables) I can give you a script.

]]> By: sleslie http://www.joelduffin.com/blog/2007/08/23/oer-recommender-released/comment-page-1/#comment-76 sleslie Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:04:13 +0000 http://www.joelduffin.com/blog/?p=12#comment-76 Joel, sorry not to comment earlier, only just now got pointed back here. As I wrote on David's blog when he posted about this, fantastic work! And thanks so much for these additional details, they make lots of sense. A few comments on the 'future directions' section: - re 7, IE greasemonkey support - you've likely already seen it, but http://www.reifysoft.com/turnabout.php seems in the ballpark, and with luck your scripts may also be some of the ones that work with Opera (cf. http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/userjs/examples/#greasemonkey) - I think the javascript you refer to above might be http://feed2js.org/ (but maybe not). Anyways, I think it does what you describe. Stephen's one used to be a 'referrer script', different thing I think. Anyways, I thought the comment was a bit nit picky, and as you say, there are some ways to work around it. Plus it gives people good motivations to use a modern web browser ;-) - If I had a vote, I'd put my hand up for #6, the ability to add recommendations for arbitrary web pages. The solution you've developed is great and works with the resources it is intended to (and the metadata it provides) but it would feel more like participatory culture to me if end users were also contributing new resources and recommendations. Anyways, lots more thoughts coming up to me but I'll leave it at these short comments for now. Great work! Joel, sorry not to comment earlier, only just now got pointed back here. As I wrote on David’s blog when he posted about this, fantastic work! And thanks so much for these additional details, they make lots of sense. A few comments on the ‘future directions’ section:

- re 7, IE greasemonkey support – you’ve likely already seen it, but http://www.reifysoft.com/turnabout.php seems in the ballpark, and with luck your scripts may also be some of the ones that work with Opera (cf. http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/userjs/examples/#greasemonkey)

- I think the javascript you refer to above might be http://feed2js.org/ (but maybe not). Anyways, I think it does what you describe. Stephen’s one used to be a ‘referrer script’, different thing I think. Anyways, I thought the comment was a bit nit picky, and as you say, there are some ways to work around it. Plus it gives people good motivations to use a modern web browser ;-)

- If I had a vote, I’d put my hand up for #6, the ability to add recommendations for arbitrary web pages. The solution you’ve developed is great and works with the resources it is intended to (and the metadata it provides) but it would feel more like participatory culture to me if end users were also contributing new resources and recommendations.

Anyways, lots more thoughts coming up to me but I’ll leave it at these short comments for now. Great work!

]]> By: joel http://www.joelduffin.com/blog/2007/08/23/oer-recommender-released/comment-page-1/#comment-75 joel Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:53:58 +0000 http://www.joelduffin.com/blog/?p=12#comment-75 Stephen gives mostly positive feedback but <a href="http://www.downes.ca/cgi-bin/page.cgi?post=41394" rel="nofollow">comments </a>that <blockquote>I would prefer the feature to be browser-neutral. Much more web-based than browser-based.</blockquote> I realize that he might not have looked at the writeup linked to at the bottom of the OER Recommender home page. To clarify, an OER creator can make the recommendations be browser neutral by requesting requesting the recommendation XML and inserting it into their page before it is served to the user. Right now, that will take a bit of work. I seem to remember on Stephen's website a Javscript that you can use to insert content from an RSS into a web page. I would like to provide that, but wasn't able to find it in my brief looking. I could also enhance to recommender service to look at the referrer so that a URL wouldn't have to be passed to it. Stephen gives mostly positive feedback but comments that

I would prefer the feature to be browser-neutral. Much more web-based than browser-based.

I realize that he might not have looked at the writeup linked to at the bottom of the OER Recommender home page. To clarify, an OER creator can make the recommendations be browser neutral by requesting requesting the recommendation XML and inserting it into their page before it is served to the user. Right now, that will take a bit of work. I seem to remember on Stephen’s website a Javscript that you can use to insert content from an RSS into a web page. I would like to provide that, but wasn’t able to find it in my brief looking. I could also enhance to recommender service to look at the referrer so that a URL wouldn’t have to be passed to it.

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